Hi Del.

Tagging is OK. It means that our VMware guys will be managing the backups
and I am not sure if they will choose TSM.

Deploying an extra disk just for pagefile.sys, reconfiguring and rebooting
thousands of VMs is a lot of work. Much easier if the product has the
ability to do exclusions. Like Veeam. IBM should step up.

Hans Chr.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:34 PM Del Hoobler <hoob...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> VMware tagging was introduced as a better solution for managing backups
> (vs. VMFOLDER/subfolder).
>
> As for pagefile.sys ... one solution is to place the pagefile on its own
> volume and exclude that volume.You can also set this disk as Independent
> (VMware Edit Settings) and it will not participate in the snapshot, the
> vmprocessindependent=yes option will allow the backup of the VM skipping
> any Independent disk.
>
>
> Del
>
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>
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 07/10/2018
> 09:17:00 AM:
>
> > From: Hans Christian Riksheim <bull...@gmail.com>
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 07/10/2018 09:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [EXT] [ADSM-L] VMFolder in VMware backups
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> >
> > Issued a PMR and from what I can gather it is theoretically impossible
> to
> > include subfolders due to VMware design.
> >
> > BTW , anyone know if there is any effort towards the ability to exclude
> > pagefile.sys? That one is killing my dedup ratio.
> >
> > Hans Chr.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 11:12 AM Hans Christian Riksheim
> <bull...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Matthew.
> > >
> > > I do mostly cluster level backups but for some installations we have
> > > folders assigned to different customers and need a separate data mover
> for
> > > each. Without a subdir=yes type backup we get into the fun situation
> where
> > > someone has made a new sub folder without informing us.
> > >
> > > TSM has advanced and granular rules for file inclusion/exclusion but
> the
> > > TDP Vmware rules are too rudimentary to be useful in my opinion.
> > >
> > > As I understand IBM is abandoning the TSM way of doing things where
> the
> > > TSM admin controls the backup process with rules and policies and we
> will
> > > probably not see any improvement. If the responsibility of doing image
> > > backups is transferred to our VMware guys they will choose the backup
> > > software and TSM won't be on the short list. IBM should be aware of
> that.
> > >
> > > Hans Chr.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:36 PM Matthew McGeary <
> > > matthew.mcge...@nutrien.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Good morning Hans,
> > >>
> > >> Subfolders have never worked with the -vmfolder option, which has
> driven
> > >> me crazy for years.  I gave up and went to cluster-level backups.
> > >>
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> > >> Hans Christian Riksheim
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> > >>
> > >> Any tip to include any sub folder? I have always believed they were
> > >> included but now I see they are not. Not sure if this behavior has
> changed
> > >> with versions. Not helping that the documentation tells nothing about
> this
> > >> very important matter and turning yet another simple thing into a
> research
> > >> project.
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