How does one optimize a disk for ADSM ? What does one want to watch out for ? Blair Jeff Bach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/30/2001 09:47:04 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Blair Wickstrand/Poco) Subject: Re: 500GB Backup Fax to: The disks are not setup optimally. A DD to one 10K SSA disk to another can run a 30 Meg per second. Stripe across five drives and this will be even faster for a single system. The problem usually is the person that optimizes the disks does not optimize them for ADSM. If you turn on compression on the client, and you get 3 to 1 compression, multiply the disk speed times 3 that you are getting writing to the server now. Aren't you really comparing uncompressed Disk writes to compressed tape writes? Jeff Bach Home Office Open Systems Engineering Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. WAL-MART CONFIDENTIAL -----Original Message----- From: Burton, Robert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup We have benchmarked this to death....EMC/IBM and Hitachi disk we can get 8 to 10 MB/s, on both IBM 3590e's and STK 9840 we are getting 35 to 40 MB/sec.... -----Original Message----- From: Remeta, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup Since when??? -----Original Message----- From: Burton, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup Tape direct is a heck of a lot faster than disk.... Robert Burton Open System Storage Analyst Royal Bank of Canada 315 Front St West Toronto, On, M5V 3A4 416-348-3849 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup Why would I send the data to tape first writing to disk is faster. -----Original Message----- From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup What I understood from your setup is as follows. You are doing cold backup everyday using TSM disk pools. Your backup time is 6 hrs for 500 Gig and you will be backing up 1TB in next few months. Your TSM server has only one SSA Adapter. If you could do following changes in your setup, You should be able to reduce backup window time. 1. Schedule backup with multiple threads using Gigabit Fiber Channel Interface. 2. Configure Copy group to send backup data directly to tapes( Don't use disk group) -Bandu -----Original Message----- From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup The amount of data is the same everday 500GB full backup. I'm using one SSA card in the tsm system. I could get Gig cards if I have proof that I'm maxing out the current 100mb cards in the system and I don't seem to be doing that. The tsm server is plugged into the same switch has the backup server and on the same ip subnet. Also, the database files that I'm backing up are just oracle dump files. The tsm serve is also running aix 4.3.3. -----Original Message----- From: Vibhute, Bandu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup We are backing up 2 servers of capacity 1.2 TB everyday. We have shark system and flash copy is implemented on shark. Without client interference we backup 1.2 Gig to TSM. It's running with 6 drives. No LAN/Free. But it's Client/Free backup. To restore we have placed Gbit Interfaces in Client and TSM Server. You need to give more information of your server and database. Are you doing incremental or full backup and which database you have? If incremental how much data is changed everyday? Can you afford GBit interface between data server and TSM? ( IT needs 2 adapter and 1 switch) How many drives your library have? How many SSA adapters are installed in server? Thank you, Bandu Vibhute, Bestfoods Baking Company, 55 Paradise Lane, Bay Shore, NY, 11706 Voice: 631-951-5212, Cell: 516-702-0323 -----Original Message----- From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 500GB Backup Importance: High Hi If I am correct IBM offers LAN free backup which is faster .But need to purchase additional s/w. pinni -----Original Message----- From: Dearman, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 500GB Backup I need to backup a 500GB database and my current setup is my tsm server is on the same ip subnet has the database server. Tsm is connected to 500GB of SSA storage with 5 RAID5 sets with two 50GB tsm volumes on each raid set. My though put to the disk only seems to be 9000 kB/s. Which doesn't seem very high to me. My backup time is about 6 hours. 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