Hi Thomas!
>From what I read from my output files I collected after each expiration you 
>are spot on!
We have a customer that complains that TDP for SAP backups which were removed 
by BACKINT are still visible afterwards for the BACKFM command. But in that 
case this can be explained by the fact that expiration hasn't run yet. I expect 
that as soon as expiration has finished, BACKFM doesn't show them anymore. I 
will test that.
Thanks for your help!
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Storage Engineering


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas 
Denier
Sent: dinsdag 25 oktober 2016 16:02
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Archive deletion

My best guess is that inventory expiration won't remove an archived directory 
if archived copies of any of the directory's contents still exist, and that the 
order of events in inventory expiration prevents a single expiration process 
from working its way up the directory tree. If this theory is correct, the 
successive expirations behave as follows:

1.Remove files and empty directories (if any).
2.Remove directories that had files but no sub-directories.
3.Remove directories that had one level of sub-directories.
4.Remove directories that had two levels of sub-directories.

and so on.

Thomas Denier
Thomas Jefferson University

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Loon, 
Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 07:57
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Archive deletion

Hi guys!
I was always under the impression that deleted archives were delete immediately 
from TSM. I just discovered that this is not the case. Although a client can no 
longer retrieve an archive after deletion, the archive files are still present 
in TSM. A select * from archives where node_name='MYNODE' confirms this.
The strange thing is that the archive object of type=file are removed by the 
first running expiration process, but the archive objects of type=dir are not! 
I had to run multiple consecutive expirations on my server to get rid of all of 
them. Each run removed a few of them and after the 5th run all archive objects 
were gone. I really don't understand this behavior...
Thanks in advance for any explanation!
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
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