Hallo, I've the same problem here in Germany. You can buy Tivoli products only from business partners, not directly from IBM. Support then is provided by IBM by normal support lines. I've just migrated from ADSM/MVS, where our OS/390 comfort line contract was the base of the support, to TSM 4.1 on SUN. Now I had to buy (mo MLC) the software, have 1 free year of support and then ????? My opinion is to come back to the old times, where you could buy/license the software directly from the manufacturer, no people, sometimes with less knowledge about the product, between and direct contact (sometimes) to the developers. Greeting from Hamburg Rolf Meyer "Talafous, John G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 23.02.2001 23:41:54 Bitte antworten an "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: (Blindkopie: Rolf Meyer/Satisfactory) Thema: IBM/Tivoli Hardware Announcement 101-020 and Software Announcemen t 201-021 On January 30, 2001 an announcement dealing with 3466-C00 server upgrade to 4.1 came to my desktop. You can check out the announcement at: _ 101020 IBM 3466 Network Storage Manager Software Upgrade Feature for Models C00 and C10 (7.4KB) http://isource.ibm.com/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annred&on=101-020 I believe I need this upgrade to provide Windows 2000 support as well as shared 3494 library support. So, I contact my IBM business partner and find that the $0 upgrade will cost me $27,225.00. Not liking this reply, I contact IBM at 1-800-IBM-CALL, as announced, and find that I MUST go through the IBM business partner that provided this solution. (The same one that wishes to bill me $27,225.00 for this free upgrade.) Do I sense a gun at my head? I have a valid IBM maintenance agreement, payable monthly, and find that to upgrade my software base, I must pay an IBM business partner a substantial sum? What am I missing? Has anyone else run into this concept? Is this the downside of the 3466? Feeling a substantial budget drain, John G. Talafous IS Technical Principal The Timken Company Global Software Support P.O. Box 6927 Data Management 1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390 Canton, Ohio USA 44706-0927 Fax : (330)-471-4034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timken.com