Hi Jim,

Despite how many years I've been participating, I still have (sometimes) 
difficulties, and often talking with other non-native English speakers they 
tell me the same. We know that not everybody is happy to express that in a list.

I'm not convinced "common-sense" is such simple thing! Otherwise, either I'm 
really stupid, or I should have cached the reference in a more humoristic way.

I don't think we can compare our technical jargon with such kind of references, 
especially because not everybody (as it is my case) follows "Monty Python, Star 
Wars, Star Trek, H2G2, etc.". Precisely because I often heard those references, 
I decided today, to ask for a clarification! I've missed a lot of fun, I guess!

I didn't respond to the first email because, sometimes, when a thread is moving 
fast in the list, you just respond to the last email that you read. Not sure if 
that's a broken way, but I do sometimes.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 1/11/19 13:27, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Jim Reid" 
<[email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió:

    
    
    > On 1 Nov 2019, at 11:14, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg 
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > 
    > My point was also a general observation (not something against any 
specific participant, just taking advantage of this specific example, as a 
mention to "Spanish inquisition" and "routing police" could be interpreted in 
between lines as something different, even if not intended).
    
    Jordi, your comment is a reasonable one. But it misses the point. In this 
case, your common sense should have told you the earlier remark wasn't a 
literal reference to the Spanish Inquisition.
    
    The RIPE/tech community habitually uses references to a variety of idioms 
from popular culture in films, TV, books and songs. Using catchphrases from 
Monty Python, Star Wars, Star Trek, H2G2, etc. are very common. That's gone on 
for decades. These phrases might well confuse non-native English speakers at 
first. Or (say) an English speaker who haven't seen Star Wars. However people 
soon pick up these references, just like we all learn the industry jargon -- 
route flapping, prefix filtering, trust anchors, ROA, PI address space, etc -- 
that probably doesn't translate well into other languages. That sort of 
understanding becomes almost automatic for those who have been active in these 
communities for a while.
    
    To be honest Jordi, I'm surprised you said you were confused. Since you've 
been coming to RIPE/IETF/ICANN meetings for longer than I can remember, this 
couldn't possibly have been the first time you've come across a Monty Python 
reference.
    
    And if you were confused, you could have said so at the time and asked the 
original poster to explain. I think that's a far better way to handle things. 
It's certainly far more productive than starting this meta-discussion or 
telling others how they should express themselves.
    
    
    
    
    



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