On Tue, May 10, 2016, at 08:15, Denis Fondras wrote:

> Why wouldn't a LIR get some space on the secondary market to provide to
> its customers ?

Because: 
 - for a small LIR it's still too expensive (usual quote is 11-13 USD/IP
 for /22 to /24)
 - there is some risk of "bad quality IPs" (blacklists, bad reputation,
 bad and slow-to-update geoloc data)
 - missing business procedures/confidence (issue of using escrow account
 does not help)

> Some are taking advantages of this situation (open multiple LIR) to get IPv4
> space. I don't see how 2015-05 would stop that even if you allow new LIR to 
> get
> more than a /22. All I can see it more faster depletion (honest LIR getting
> more + dishonest LIR getting more)

It will not stop dishonest ones. May checking the actual need may slow
them down a little bit, but that is not sure either.
However, the honest ones will not have to use the same practices that
they already consider "cheating".

> I hear your arguments but I don't think 2015-05 is the right answer for the
> community.

If you have any ideas, you're welcome to share.

--
Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN
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