Hi

I agree and have just updated the shepherd write-up. Late, perhaps, but better 
than never.

Yoav

> On 8 Jan 2025, at 8:42, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyn...@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Yoav,
>  
> Thanks for your reply, I agree with your reasoning, but it should have been 
> in the shepherd’s write-up to enlighten the ADs when doing their review ;-) 
> (I prefer to read a statement rather than making a guess).
>  
> Regards
>  
> -éric
>  
> From: Yoav Nir <ynir.i...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 8 January 2025 at 05:15
> To: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyn...@cisco.com>
> Cc: The IESG <i...@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-acme-...@ietf.org 
> <draft-ietf-acme-...@ietf.org>, <acme-cha...@ietf.org>, acme@ietf.org 
> <acme@ietf.org>, g...@apnic.net <g...@apnic.net>
> Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-acme-ari-07: (with DISCUSS 
> and COMMENT)
> 
> Hi, Éric.
> 
> Thanks for the review.  As to your coment, ARI is an extension to RFC 8555 
> which is standards track.  There are also some implementations for it, so 
> “Proposed Standard” is, in my opinion, the right status. It’s too mature for 
> “Experimental”.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Yoav
> 
> > On 2 Jan 2025, at 15:49, Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-acme-ari-07: Discuss
> > 
> > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
> > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
> > introductory paragraph, however.)
> > 
> > 
> > Please refer to 
> > https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/
> > for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
> > 
> > 
> > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-acme-ari/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-acme-ari-07
> > CC @evyncke
> > 
> > Thank you for the work put into this document. I can easily imagine that it 
> > is
> > really useful.
> > 
> > Please find below one blocking DISCUSS points (easy to address), some
> > non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be appreciated even if only 
> > for
> > my own education), and some nits.
> > 
> > Special thanks to Yoav Nir for the shepherd's detailed write-up including 
> > the
> > WG consensus ***but it lacks*** the justification of the intended status.
> > 
> > Other thanks to Carlos Bernardos, the Internet directorate reviewer (at my
> > request), thanks for having considered his int-dir review:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-acme-ari-07-dnsdir-telechat-huston-2024-12-15/
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-acme-ari-06-dnsdir-lc-huston-2024-11-23/
> > 
> > I hope that this review helps to improve the document,
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -éric
> > 
> > ## DISCUSS (blocking)
> > 
> > As noted in https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/, a
> > DISCUSS ballot is just a request to have a discussion on the following 
> > topics:
> > 
> > ### Section 4.1
> > 
> > I think that the example is wrong for HTTP request, rather than
> > ```
> > GET https://example.com/acme/renewal-info/
> >      aYhba4dGQEHhs3uEe6CuLN4ByNQ.AIdlQyE
> > ```
> > it should probably be
> > "
> > GET /acme/renewal-info/
> >      aYhba4dGQEHhs3uEe6CuLN4ByNQ.AIdlQyE
> > Host: example.com
> > "
> > 
> > Also in this section, should the note about prefixing a "00" when the serial
> > number is a negative number be more than a simple note but normative ? Or if
> > this is per default in ACME, adding a reference ?
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > ## COMMENTS (non-blocking)
> > 
> > ### Lack of HTTP-dir reviews
> > 
> > I can only regret that there was no HTTP directorate review for this 
> > document
> > as one of my DISCUSS and one of my COMMENT are related to HTTP.
> > 
> > ### url should be in uppercase
> > 
> > I have detected some "url" that should be "URL" as it is an acronym.
> > 
> > ### Section 4.2
> > 
> > Is the first `Conforming clients SHOULD provide this URL to their operator`
> > correct ? I would assume that this JSON reply is sent by the ACME server and
> > not by the client.
> > 
> > Is the `Retry-After` the most suitable HTTP header ? I.e., while RFC 9110
> > section 10.2.3 is not really specific, [Mozilla
> > spec](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Retry-After)
> > seems to indicate that it is not appropriate for a 200 response code. As I 
> > am
> > not an HTTP expert, I am ready to be corrected of course but I would think 
> > that
> > using a new key in the returned object would be neater.
> > 
> > ## NITS (non-blocking / cosmetic)
> > 
> > ### Appendix A
> > 
> > It seems that the year of this certificate is 0000, was it the intent ?
> > 
> > ### Section 4.2
> > Suggest to use a more recent date (rather than 2021) in the example.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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