I just published draft-02 
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-friel-acme-subdomains-02.txt which hopefully 
addresses the pre-authorization and policy discussions below.


-----Original Message-----
From: Acme <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Owen Friel (ofriel)
Sent: 29 January 2020 05:51
To: Felipe Gasper <[email protected]>
Cc: IETF ACME <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Acme] ACME wildcards vs. subdomain authorizations (was RE: Call 
for adoption draft-frield-acme-subdomains)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felipe Gasper <[email protected]>
> Sent: 21 January 2020 14:01
> To: Owen Friel (ofriel) <[email protected]>
> Cc: IETF ACME <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Acme] ACME wildcards vs. subdomain authorizations (was 
> RE: Call for adoption draft-frield-acme-subdomains)
> 
> 
> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Owen Friel (ofriel) <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Will this document eventually also describe subdomain authz via the 
> >> standard ACME workflow?
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >
> > [ofriel] That’s the exact workflow that the document is attempting 
> > to
> describe, so maybe it needs to be clarified.
> > The example section 
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-friel-acme-subdomains-
> 01#section-4.2 (and I realise now looking at it that I messed up the 
> numbered steps - they are all '1') outlines a client authorizing for 
> "example.com" and getting certs for "sub0.example.com", 
> "sub1.example.com" and "sub2.example.com". If its not clear, I can try reword 
> in an update.
> 
> Your document seems to confine itself to the pre-authorization 
> workflow, though (as per section 4’s 2nd paragraph, anyhow); I’m 
> thinking applicability to 8555’s default/standard/order-then-authz workflow.

[ofriel] Confining to pre-authorization certainly isn’t the intention, and I 
can clarify this.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-friel-acme-subdomains-01#section-4.1 states:

" If a server has such a policy and a client is not authorized for the
   parent domain then:
...
   o  If the client submits a newOrder request for a subdomain: The
      server MUST return a status 201 (Created) response.  The response
      body is an order object with status set to "pending" and links to
      newly created authorizations objects against the parent domain." 

So some of the text explicitly allows this. I will refactor.

> 
> -FG
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