I'm pro moving forward
(i personally want my SANs to include the machines ips so anyone connecting via 
ip doesn't have to click through a security warning before being redirected to 
the correct name, yes 0 - minimal legitimate users would try the ip, but same 
for many of the names in my SAN id just like to see them show in log like other 
unintended for https names (to find out where they come from more than anything 
else) they don't show if they stop at cert warning

but im an edge case (most don't care about the unexpected traffic/load)


At 20:55 21/03/2018  Wednesday, Roland Bracewell Shoemaker wrote:
>Hey all, Following on from the meeting today I wanted to start a discussion on 
>what to do moving forward with regard to the reverse-dns method defined in 
>draft-ietf-acme-ip. There were arguments on both sides about whether the 
>method should be retained or removed with I’ll quickly paraphrase (if you 
>feel I’ve misrepresented either please correct me). The argument for 
>removing this was that there are no technical issues with the method as-is but 
>that the reverse DNS zones are historically badly managed and that using them 
>for validation will cause problems down the line (presumably misissuance by a 
>person who controls the zone but doesn’t actually control the IPs the zone 
>represents). The argument for keeping it is that the IETF (or more 
>specifically the ACME WG) should not be where CA or browser policy is dictated 
>and that given these methods are currently allowed under the CABF BRs and 
>browser root programs it would actually be useful to have a technically 
>defined method f
or validation that can at least be used as a tool for further research on the 
topic. As stated at the meeting I’m of the opinion that we should move 
forward with the method in the document and if individual browsers or CABF feel 
strongly that these methods are not secure they should disallow their usage in 
their root programs or the BRs respectively which would prevent any CA from 
actually using the method. That said there was obviously a contingent of people 
who disagree with me on this. I guess one thing to ask is do we have anyone who 
would actually _want_ to use this? My understanding is the main use case, much 
like for the dns-01 challenge, is to get certs for IP identifiers before 
actually having to stand anything up on a machine so that it can instantly 
start doing its job which seems valuable. Thanks, Roland 
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