On 9/27/2017 1:29 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
Goran has a good point here.
Actually - I don't think he does. If there is a sufficiently
interested group of people that want to talk certificate enrollment and
there is a chair available and willing then do an interim on that. If
there is a group of sufficiently interested group of people that want to
talk about the roadmap then do an interim on that. If ACE doesn't want
to have such an interim then perhaps it still gets done as a virtual
BOF. But this has as much legitimacy as any of the other ACE work items.
Virtual interims have another more common name - teleconferences.
They're cheap to hold.
Don't hold the certificate stuff hostage to the roadmap stuff and don't
confuse a F2F interim with a virtual interim with respect to providing a
false either or choice.
The IETF is bottom up - we work on what the members are interested in
working on. It's not a great idea holding one idea hostage as a means
of trying to get work done on something else.
Later, Mike
Kathleen
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Göran Selander
<goran.selan...@ericsson.com> wrote:
As I mentioned in a previous mail, I’m completely against giving priority
to non-charter items. Therefore the first interim meeting should be
focused on the ACE roadmap - the output from the Wiki activity. If we have
time to discuss certificate enrolment, that is fine. If we want a later
interim for the certificate enrolment discussion that is fine too, as long
as there is sufficient time is given to decide on the ongoing work.
Göran
On 2017-09-27 18:34, "Ace on behalf of Hannes Tschofenig"
<ace-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> wrote:
Fair enough.
We either need to make it longer or pick two dates. I prefer the latter.
On 09/27/2017 06:23 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
Sure, my response was to make it clear the wiki was to be discussed
though. Will this all be on one call or two? The announcement wasn't
clear and I'd like ot make sure the WG is ready for the profiles
discussion.
Best,
Kathleen
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Hannes Tschofenig
<hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> wrote:
I agree with Kepeng that we also wanted to discuss the certificate
enrollment in addition to the Wiki.
On 09/27/2017 05:23 PM, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
Hello Kepeng,
The interim should also be to discuss the profiles as that was a
priority from the WG session in Prague. Goran pulled together the
wiki, now it's up to the WG participants to check the wiki and amend
as needed to allow for a productive session. Or did you plan on two
interims? Timing is tight for that though.
Best regards,
Kathleen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Kepeng Li
<kepeng....@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
Hi all,
According to our IETF 99 meeting minutes, we will hold an interim
meeting on
certificate enrolment in constrained environments.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/minutes-99-ace/
We proposed three options for the meeting time:
1. 17th Oct, Tuesday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00.
2. 18th Oct, Wednesday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00.
3. 19th Oct, Thursday, GMT 13:00 ~ 14:00.
Please indicate your available time from the doodle poll:
https://doodle.com/poll/ig3bhr7tfb2xh4u4
Hannes and I will prepare the agenda and send out later. We may add
other
topics to the agenda.
Thanks.
Kind Regards
Kepeng & Hannes
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