Hi hiro.

History is full of counter examples that contraddict your thesis.

At least since neolithic, human organization has been determinated by 
technology.
The most recent (and most directly related to informatics) were Gutemberg's 
movable-type
printing press, Meucci's telephone, the general purpose CPU and obviously 
the Internet.

But ancient sailing tech, the steam engine, the car, the H bomb, are few among 
thousands of examples of technological innovation that enabled new (and
always more complex) kind of human organizations.

Actually one could argue that technology is the most powerful political force 
in human society.

On January 27, 2022 9:02:29 PM UTC, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the majority of "hackers" have already failed to be political, when
> they sold their souls to the big corps like google and amazon.

You are confusing hackers with engineers.

Most hackers ARE politically aware.
They pursuit knowledge instead of power, money or prestige, but they are aware 
of
the consequences of their hack.

Yet they might align with power anyway.
Some are blind enough or careless enough or individualistic enough to only care 
about 
their own fun hacks.


Take Pike or Thompson: they were pioneers, invented C, Plan9 and all the stuff 
we love
but now they work in Google (afaik).

Were they hacker?

I can't say if they were or they were just great engineers, but for sure they 
now align 
with Google interests and approve its business model based on surveillance 
capitalism.


On the other hand, RMS, Terry A. Davis or Phineas Fisher, Ola Bini are all very 
politically aware hackers, each in his own way.


Sure, since ever, Power system try to get control of hackers.
Sometime they manage to jail us. Sometime we escape. [1]


Giacomo

[1] http://www.tesio.it/2020/09/03/not_all_hackers_are_americans.html

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