2015-05-09 10:25 GMT-07:00 Lyndon Nerenberg <lyn...@orthanc.ca>:
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> On May 9, 2015, at 7:43 AM, erik quanstrom <quans...@quanstro.net> wrote:
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> > easy enough until one encounters devices that don't send icmp
> > responses because it's not implemented, or somehow considered
> > "secure" that way.
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> Oddly enough, I don't see this 'problem' in the real world.  And FreeBSD is 
> far from being alone in the always-set-DF bit.
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> The only place this bites is when you run into tiny shops with homegrown 
> firewalls configured by people who don't understand networking or security.  
> Me, I consider it a feature that these sites self-select themselves off the 
> network.  I'm certainly no worse off for not being able to talk to them.

Or when your client is on a cell phone. Cell networks are the worst.

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