Skip and I have been talking offline. I do think seattle is looking better and better.
- hub city - good mass transit to a likely meeting place AND hotels right from the airport - huge range of hotels, with some good low cost ones - supportive organization for the meeting and, finally, I may be wrong but it seems a good middle ground time and space wise (and time-zone wise; everyone will be jet-lagged but me) for both the pacific rim and the folks from the EU. The Marin guys did get back to me and it would be cheap but I'm not sure everyone will want to go for a bunkhouse, and the mass transit issue to the headlands is a problem. ron