On Sep 22, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Jack Norton wrote:
Richard Uhtenwoldt wrote:
J.R. Mauro writes:
Another thing they won't consider is having separate versions for
high-end servers and PCs. I don't understand why Torvalds thinks
Linux
has to be all things to all people.
the Linux running on a high-end server is probably compiled from
the same (evolving over time) source tree as the Linux running on
a desktop.
but cannot the same be said of Windows now that most desktops run
Windows XP or a later version of Windows? cannot the same be
said of OS X?
Richard Uhtenwoldt
http://sonic.net/~sielskr
The big topic for me is the realtime patch (the one mentioned at
rt.wiki.kernel.org). I dabble in computer based audio, and this
patch is mandatory for low latency audio. There is a big debate as
to why this isn't pushed into the main kernel source and/or forked
in the name of such things. All I will say is that on OSX I can use
jack daemon and get low latency audio right out of the box and on
windows I can use low latency drivers such as ASIO and the newer
WaveRT. It's even more tragic as there are tons of great linux
audio tools, but they are a hard sale because you need to apply the
rt-patch (which for a musician is like performing open heart surgery).
In the end I don't care what the linux devs do, but they need to
come up with a game plan and either fork (server, desktop linux) or
include it all and try and make everyone happy (the latter will end
in chaos me thinks).
Funny when you consider the only music oriented systems still alive
are Gentoo, and 64Studio. Everything else either has dropped out, or
hasn't been updated in forever. It even looks like this might happen
for 64Studio.
I don't know if it's just for my couple sound cards (emu10k1, and a
couple RME's) but it seems audio quality has gotten worse since I
first dabbled in Linux audio.
What I just described is the number one topic that brings up the
'fork linux' debate (at least it's the one I always pay attention to).
Speaking of realtime, I am trying my hardest to port some of our
custom control applications that we use around my engineering lab to
inferno (anyone doing something similar? inferno list is not
exactly a popular place apparently). Right now I spit out a python
script on the fly for everything (quick turnaround) and it's getting
old (plus I want to be able to control anything in the lab from any
machine in the lab -- i.e. a perfect place for some inferno installs)
-jack
