Things like Clojure, or Scala become a bit more interesting when the VM is extended to allow tail recursion to happen in a nice way.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Roman V Shaposhnik <r...@sun.com> wrote: > Clojure is definitely something that I would like to play > with extensively. Looks very promising from the outset, > so the only question that I have is how does it feel > when used for substantial things. > > Thanks, > Roman. > > P.S. My belief in it was actually reaffirmed by a raving > endorsement it got from an old LISP community. Those > guys are a bit like 9fans, if you know what I mean ;-) > > > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 10:38 -0800, Bakul Shah wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:11:10 PST "Roman V. Shaposhnik" <r...@sun.com> > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 07:19 -0800, David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > > > My knowledge on this subject is about 8 or 9 years old, so check with > your > > > local Python guru.... > > > > > > > > > > > > The last I'd heard about Python's threading is that it was > cooperative > > > > only, and that you couldn't get real parallelism out of it. It > serves > > > > as a means to organize your program in a concurrent manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words no two threads run at the same time in Python, even if > > > > you're on a multi-core system, due to something they call a "Global > > > > Interpreter Lock". > > > > > > I believe GIL is as present in Python nowadays as ever. On a related > > > note: does anybody know any sane interpreted languages with a decent > > > threading model to go along? Stackless python is the only thing that > > > I'm familiar with in that department. > > > > Depend on what you mean by "sane interpreted language with a > > decent threading model" and what you want to do with it but > > check out www.clojure.org. Then there is Erlang. Its > > wikipedia entry has this to say: > > Although Erlang was designed to fill a niche and has > > remained an obscure language for most of its existence, > > it is experiencing a rapid increase in popularity due to > > increased demand for concurrent services, inferior models > > of concurrency in most mainstream programming languages, > > and its substantial libraries and documentation.[7][8] > > Well-known applications include Amazon SimpleDB,[9] > > Yahoo! Delicious,[10] and the Facebook Chat system.[11] > > > > >
